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ENCORE: Parents Talk - Do You Spank Your Kids?

In this week's Parents Talk, we address the issue of spanking.

I don't know about you but I was spanked as a child.

Both my mom and dad used spanking as punishment for something one of us kids may have done wrong. It was infrequent, but it was completely effective. Whatever I had done, well, I wasn't going to do it again after a firm swat on the backside.

Still, I swore I would never spank my own children if I had them. I had this idea in my head that I would always be able to calmly discuss the problem at hand and remedy it with just a few strong words or even a timeout. 

That's not entirely true.

Children, especially ones under the age of five, lack a certain amount of reason and control over their emotions that make that scenario work 100 percent of the time. Yes, timeouts have been effective in our house, but there are times when they haven't worked at all.

It's frustrating when your child disobeys you or doesn't listen to reason - no question about it. But I can't bring myself to resort to spanking. I want them to understand what they did wrong, not be afraid that I will hit them.

What are your thoughts on spanking? Do you spank? Why or why not? Tell us in the comments.

Todd Richissin April 2, 2012 at 02:49 pm
Doesn't every bit of credible research out there say that spanking doesn't work -- and leads to even worse behavior. Forget for a second whether it's morally wrong; does it work?
Jody Gifford (Editor) April 2, 2012 at 03:05 pm
Honestly, in the manner in which my parents did it, when a spanking was delivered, you knew you had done something REALLY bad. I don't know if they could have responded any other way with the same result but it was effective, at least on me, long term.
That said, I am trying to avoid spanking all together and go a different route so it's still a work in progress.
Sarah Spear Cook April 2, 2012 at 06:52 pm
I have to admit that I have resorted to spanking in the past, a rare few times. In my situation it really was hard to tell that it made any difference. My biggest issue with spanking was that I was angry/frustrated with my son hitting me in his anger. So, I didn't think it was effective to tell him not to hit when I was spanking (hitting) him... It was a very backwards message and I have stopped using spanking as punishment.
Angela Miale April 2, 2012 at 07:34 pm
I have never spanked my children, because they have never done anything bad. They are complete angels. Okay, that is not entirely true. I don't actually spank them, but I threaten to take things away. I don't want them to think that hitting is okay, because it isn't. I don't want them to think that hitting is an appopriate response when you don't like someone's actions.
Jody Gifford (Editor) April 2, 2012 at 07:45 pm
I agree, Angela! I remember being in Target once and seeing a mom spank her son and say, "You don't hit!" How ridiculous is that?
A.D. April 2, 2012 at 08:15 pm
It's child abuse. Every study that has been done has shown that it it doesn't work. It teaches children to think of right and wrong in terms of external consequences instead of whether an action is inherently right or wrong. Also, why should parents be allowed to strike children when that kind of behavior is not allowed in the adult world and would even be considered a crime?
Mark April 2, 2012 at 09:28 pm
I find it humorous that the author starts out stating that spanking is "completely effective" and then spends the next 4 paragraphs describing how her decision to not spank has been ineffective, but never questions the decision.
Jody Gifford does the same thing in her initial comment. Why are you running from those parenting practices you find effective?
Jody Gifford (Editor) April 2, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Yes, Mark, spanking was effective on me as a child because it hurt and if I did the same thing wrong a second time, I would be hurt again. Simple as that.
I refuse to do that to my children. I never want them to be afraid that I will hurt them, no matter to what degree. Do you have children of your own, Mark? Do you spank them?
Megan VerHelst (Editor) April 2, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Okay, I wasn't going to touch this one because this is one of those issues you're never going to get one side to completely see the other, but I can't help myself. That being said, I was a child once, a child who DID get spanked. It was rare, but when it happened I can promise you I never made that particular mistake twice. Hindsight, however is 20/20. I'm willing to bet it never hurt as much as I thought it did at the time because, let's face it — half the pain is rooted in the fear of the action itself.
I guess I have a really hard time believing that swatting your kids' butts from time to time is child abuse — that seems a tad dramatic. I also feel like there's a time and place for every consequence. If your kid is hitting, you obviously don't use spanking to punish them. But for those rare occasions when rationalizing, talking, reasoning (which is easier said than done when we're talking about the receiving party being a four-year-old who's still learning the virtues of patience and paying attention), I think spanking can be justified. I use my own experience as an example. I never feared my parents — the fear came in the consequence, immediately followed by the realization there were things I myself could have done to prevent it. And there you have it — the underlying lesson. At least for me.
Linda Carpenter April 3, 2012 at 01:39 pm
The biggest mistake in parenting is talking too much. Bad behavior requires action. When a child is misbehaving the parent needs to intervene and remove the child or redirect the kid to a more appropriate activity. After the age of two the most important thing a child has to learn is that they must obey. "Because I said so" is all the explanation required. Don't give a command unless you are willing to follow through. Children MUST learn to be voice controlled - for their own safety as well as their ability to succeed in any social situation (like following rules at school). Time out, removing a privilege or toy, giving a swat, these are all viable methods. The important thing is that the child must accept the parent as the "person in charge". "Learning to mind" may seem like an old fashioned term but it is essential in the formation of a civilized child. At first a child minds because we make them. Children do not enjoy being made to mind - whatever method is used. Loving parents know that the discomfort they are causing the child is for the child' s own good. In time the child minds not because they fear the consequence, but because they don't want to disappoint their parents.
Megan VerHelst (Editor) April 3, 2012 at 02:19 pm
Couldn't have said it better myself, Linda. :)
Anne Carothers-Kay April 3, 2012 at 02:23 pm
Linda should teach parenting classes!
Jenn April 4, 2012 at 02:00 am
I agree with Linda and Megan. Also spanking my kids has never been about hurting them. In fact, in the years that spanking was effective my kids all still had diapers. The difference between spanking and child abuse is whether you are in control of your emotions or lashing out in anger. Don't get me wrong, you can be angry about what your child did but still be in control.
Also, you could possibly see a correlation between our generation swearing off spanking with kids and the out of control children being produced... there is very little respect for rules and authority from a lot of children because they know there are no real consequences. Parents are so worried about wanting to be friends with their kids instead of raising them to be good people. Some kids don't need spanked but I don't think it should be ruled out.
Benjamin B. April 4, 2012 at 03:35 am
I was spanked a LOT as a child. Needless to say, i have turned out just fine. I knew when i was getting a spanking and it was when i did something that the basic "grounding" or "you just lost video game privileges" where not big enough punishments for. Now, that being said, i don't believe that spanking for every situation is the right course of action either. I have spanked my children a few times. And needless to say, they don't fear me. They also don't make the same mistakes again.
The only time i have spanked my children is after they have done something in which has caused harm to another. Now, i agree that hitting a child and telling them not to hit, may seem counter productive. However, when my youngest child hit her older sister and made her cry, I felt that one good swap was necessary. However, it also came with a life lesson. I asked them if the spanking hurt. When they replied "yes", i told them that's how your sister felt when you hit her. You don't like that feeling do you, well neither did your sister. Needless to say, they don't hit each other anymore. That was a one time lesson, and it seemed to be effective.They may argue over items from time to time, but they don't hit each other. Also, the warning of a spanking usually stops any argument enough that we can discuss the situation at hand and take care of it.
Benjamin B. April 4, 2012 at 03:56 am
I do agree on the time outs and the taking items away. However, i have also seen children over the course of time still decide to be disobedient even after loosing items they had at one point held dear to them. In the case that your children ever decide that loosing an item really isn't that big of a deal, and grounding them becomes infective, what other alternatives would you consider using?
And for the record, I am just curious as to what other alternatives you have considered in the event that the current course of discipline ever starts to fail.
Mark April 4, 2012 at 05:54 pm
Jody, Yes I have children, and yes I have spanked them. Don't need to do it very often as it not the first tool on the escalation ladder and it is effective so kids learn and develop good behavioral habits. What's more important is providing the positive feedback to make those habits permanent.
Jody, were you afraid of your parents? From what you said you only received a spanking if you had done something "really bad" and you learned from it. Seems like you felt responsible for your own behavior and consequences. My experience is that most people had/have good relationships with their parents who spanked. Why do you think you would be different?
Rachel Morey Flynn April 5, 2012 at 12:51 pm
so, I was walking down the street with a group of moms and a bunch of kids a few years ago and one kid ran out into the street. a busy one. the mom was too far away to get there in time. another mother ran after, caught and yanked on the kid and no one got smeared into the concrete. the kid ignored the screaming moms chorus of "NO NO NO NO NO NO COME BACK NO NO NO COME BACK." it was a nightmare. after, the mom of the child in the street was angry with the mother closest to the street for not catching her child sooner. the kid was almost five years old. she squatted down and calmly explained to the nearly killed child that "mommy loves you sooooo much! you can't do that, because mommy loves you sooooo much! my sweet baby!" and on and on and on. I wholeheartedly believe that the mother of that child should have been spanked. yes. that woman should have been dragged into greensquare park during a farmers market and spanked. pants down. humiliated. because she sucks so bad at being a parent that it may kill her kid. so spanking? yes. but let's not limit it to children.
Scott Maffett April 5, 2012 at 07:36 pm
I have never seen a report that says spanking does not work. If there are any out there I would be interested to read them. I was spanked as a child but only when I needed it. It was not a daily occurance and it was only after I had done something truly bad or acted very inappropriatley. We spanked our children as well, but again only when thier actions warranted it. I see nothing wrong with the practice as long as it is under control.
Jules Walker April 9, 2012 at 07:09 pm
Most of the time my parents need only look at us and it would make the flesh melt off your skull. We did get spankings and it was only when we had really screwed up. I think it's healthy because it helps a child to develop a conscience and really learn right from wrong. It helps to shrink the "gray area", if you ask me. I spanked mine and it worked that same way it did with my parents.
Beverly Boucher April 9, 2012 at 08:39 pm
I wasn't going to get into this either just like Megan posted, but I can't help myself. People on here that agree to spank and says it works then why is it I keep reading...spanked only when I needed it...if spanking worked why were you continually spanked if it worked? Oh I see, you misbehaved in other situations!!!! Spanking just tells your child. I am too weak to handle you or your behavor so I will inflict pain on you and now you will not do that again!! You instill fear not respect. Would you have respect for a person who hit you or inflict pain on you? I don't think so! In my experience with years working with children and with my own....this kind of discipline will only teach a child to sneak and hide to be naughty. Discipline is for teaching not for hurting. I have worked with children for over 30 yrs. and every child that was spanked would deal with other children doing something they didn't like... with hitting, punching, bitting and kicking.Well after all isn't that the way they are dealt with when their being naughty???
Bob April 10, 2012 at 12:30 am
There are other much more effective ways of dealing with disobedience.
My mother used to hit me with a belt. I was honestly scared, as she would be yelling and at least to me, seemed to be out of control at times. It didn't seem to work very well as I think I would get hit every couple of weeks, maybe more. On the contrary, when my grandmother watched me, she would simply tell me that she was disappointed in me and ask me if I wanted her to watch me or should she tell my parents that I didn't want to stay with her. I learned to behave myself with my Grammy because I loved her so much and I wanted to please her. My mother hit me until I reached 14 years old. On that last day, I held her wrists looked her in the eyes and told her, no more, from now on talk to me and I will listen. We got along much better after that. My Grammy died 25 years ago and I have to say this, the only person that I miss so much that I shed a sentimental tear over is my Grammy, even after all these years. Patience and kindness is a much better way to show your kids that you love them and makes them better human beings.

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